Some months ago, I was moved to write a post about fake reviews. I got quite a stroppy comment from one reader who said s/he was fed up with authors telling readers about fake reviews, and we should trust people to have the common sense to be able to spot the fake reviews. Frankly, I was embarrassed that I may have caused offence, and I took the post down. And now I wish I hadn’t.
In the last few weeks, there have been a endless articles, tweets and blog posts about fake reviews, and whilst I am prepared to accept that the amateur faker can usually be spotted a mile off, I think my previous reader had underestimated the seriousness of the whole sock puppet mentality out there. This is not about people’s family and friends writing one-liners ‘the best book I’ve ever read’, or their worst enemies writing ‘wish I’d saved the money’. This is now a very serious issue.
I started to write this post a few days ago, but then suddenly all this new information started to appear, so I had to rewrite most of it. I didn’t intend to name names, but find that the Telegraph and the Daily Mail have done it for me! The culprit that everybody is currently talking about at the moment is RJ Ellory, but he is far from alone. Check out this post from Stuart Neville to find another author revealed.
Like many people, I had assumed (and I apologise profusely for this) that the main culprits were a very small number of indie authors who were trying to promote their own books, and believed that criticising the competition was the way to go (??). When Only the Innocent reached the number one spot on Amazon, I was warned by Kerry Wilkinson of Locked In fame that I would now start to receive some really bad reviews. At that time, I had over a hundred reviews and they were all four or five stars. I was surprised at his comment, but accepted that not everybody would like my book – it was written to be an easy read, and I knew it wasn’t a work of literary genius. Most people seemed to enjoy it, and that was good enough for me. But what I hadn’t expected were the unbelievable number of obviously completely fake reviews, with comments that show absolutely no evidence of having read the book and just slam it into the ground. I was shocked. Even more so when I identified at least three of these reviews as coming from other authors who weren’t quite smart enough to hide their tracks.
Take for example the reviewer who (on Goodreads, no less) asked how many times I could refer to an ‘insincere smile’ in Only the Innocent. My first reaction was shock and horror. Had I really done that? Out came the manuscript as I searched for the word insincere, praying that I hadn’t used it more than twice at the most. Phew. I hadn’t. Not more than twice; in fact, not even once. The word ‘insincere’ does not appear anywhere in the whole book – and for this, I was awarded one star. This may not have been a fake review – he might just have read a different book, of course.
My shock turned to horror when I discovered that it is possible to pay for reviews from a site where everything costs a fiver (a bit of a clue there, for those who know about this site). You can buy up to three good reviews or three bad reviews from different named reviewers for a book of your choice for just $5. And there are still people out there asking for ‘genuine’ review swaps. Let’s be realistic here – if somebody is reviewing your book, are you really going to give theirs anything less that a four star? It should never be done.
I was also astonished by the peevishness, and I can’t think of a better word, of some authors. I have had to stop offering to give independent reviews of books via the excellent Kindle Book Review because of the negative effect on my own review statistics. I make it a policy never to give a bad review. I am not in the business of harming other people’s chances and opportunities just because their work doesn’t appeal to me. So if I can’t give a book at least a three star review, I write to the author and apologise but say that unfortunately theirs wasn’t my sort of book. If there is something technically wrong with it, I would mention it (for example, one really good book had passages in Italian which were incorrect – and as I live in Italy I was able to spot this), but I would never write up an Amazon review that would have a negative impact on sales. However… some of these authors took a different view. I wouldn’t review their books, so they were publicly going to make sure that other people didn’t buy my book. After not one but two occasions when I declined to review a book for no other reason than neither of them were stories that I could relate to (and therefore manage to finish), I received on each occasion no less than FIVE one star reviews in the space of a few hours. None were from verified purchasers, and this was at a time when I was averaging one new review per week. Oh – and one of these authors was stupid enough to recommend his own book in a couple of the reviews too. So sadly I can no longer help to support other indie authors by reading and reviewing their books. Once again, the minority have impacted on the majority.
But back to my previous incorrect assumptions. Along with the majority of the press and the ‘traditionally published’ authors, the sock puppetry was claimed to be shocking behaviour by a (very) small minority of indie authors. But in the space of the last few weeks, the following has been revealed about traditionally published and well-known authors –
- One writer of several successful books allegedly admitted publicly that he has a number of sock puppet characters registered on Amazon. He goes into forums and creates discussions between himself and, er, himself to say what a fantastic book he has written. I didn’t hear this admission personally, but it was reported on several blogs after the Harrogate Festival.
- An article in a well respected New York paper last week told of an entrepreneur making a considerable sum of money by offering professionally written reviews of books. But not just one review; authors could buy up to ONE HUNDRED reviews from him, all for their book. Now, given that the cost for this service was not inconsiderable, this was not a route taken by your average indie author who doesn’t have two pennies to rub together. But this guy has made a lot of money writing these reviews, so somebody was buying them.
- Since Friday, Twitter has been alive with allegations about a couple of top ranking authors who have been discovered to be using sock puppets (for those, like me, who had never heard the phrase sock puppet in this context, the definition is “an extra online identity created by a member of a discussion forum, etc, to agree with opinions submitted under his or her usual online name”). The main culprit was RJ Ellory, and he was exposed by Jeremy Duns, although from the tweets flying around it would appear that Ellory wasn’t the only one up to these tricks. There was plenty of evidence to show that this top author had written some astonishing reviews of his own books, and had similarly crafted carefully and eloquently worded appalling reviews of books by people he considers his competitors. This is somebody who has sold over one million books, and has a traditional publishing deal. How can the average reader spot these sorts of fake reviews?
The one bit of good news is that Orlando Figes was actually caught out for doing exactly this a couple of years ago. He apparently had to pay legal costs and damages to the two people that he had slammed, as they were going to sue him for libel. Now that, I like… a lot!
Let’s be absolutely honest about this – any writer who has their first book published is likely to get a rash of good reviews from friends and family. Whether asked for or not, all those who care about you will be so impressed by the fact that your book is up there that some are likely to want to help you out by buying your book, reading it, and reviewing it. That’s to be expected. But for most people, it will account for a fairly small number of reviews.
What I now look for when I search for reviews of a book are not those from faceless people who have maybe only written one or two lines and have never reviewed another book. Nor do I look for those people who have reviewed a lot of books, but have given only one author five stars, and everybody else one or two (bit of a giveaway!). I also completely ignore reviews that mention another author or another book. I look for those reviews that are from trusted sources. People who regularly review books, and give a range of levels of review to different authors; those who demonstrate that they have read the book. Even if they point out negatives, a good reviewer will do so in a constructive rather than an offensive way.
I will admit now that I do have two Amazon identities – but only because I have to (or at least, HAD to). The reason? (Skip this bit if you like, because it’s boring.) Living in Italy, I had to register my real address to upload a book onto KDP Amazon. A Kindle bought with the same identity (and therefore an Italian address) at the time could only buy books from the US. So I created another identity with a UK address so that I could buy books. I haven’t tried to hide this, and occasionally I forget to log out and respond using the other identity in a forum. This confuses everybody, because I always sign my posts as Rachel, and in order to avoid a massive (and boring) explanation, I usually say that it’s a friend’s account – but I have never used that account to talk about me as if I’m someone else (if that makes sense) or have conversations with myself. Do these people use two or more computers to do this, or do they log on and off all the time, I wonder? How very tedious! Oh, and I occasionally write reviews for other people in my other name, but only good ones!
So what, if anything, can we do about all this? We can look out for any and all sock puppets and report them where appropriate, or perhaps try to lobby for tighter restraints by Amazon. They could check for more than one review from a single IP address, or could insist on real names (ie names that matched the credit card used to buy goods). People may have more than one credit card, but most people don’t have more than one name!
In a recent press release, Amazon stated : “Amazon.com, Inc. seeks to be Earth’s most customer-centric company” and if that’s the case, customers need to be given genuine information.
As author Gregg Hurwitz said on Twitter yesterday morning “The concept of other authors as “rivals” is foreign to me”. I agree with that, and I would have thought that any sale based on fake and dishonest behaviour must seem like a very hollow victory.
I await, with interest, your feedback!
Great post – unfortunately the problem with Amazon reviews is that it can have a direct impact on sales (especially if an author is relying on that alone). In general I trust Goodreads reviews more readily because that ‘sales’ factor is limited somewhat.
And I continue to struggle myself with posting bad reviews…for credibility you need a range, but as e-books can be quickly edited (i.e. serious concerns about a book can now be addressed relatively easily) I do not tend to publish any <3 star reviews on Amazon. It will however go on my blog…
Hi Rachel. Great post as usual. I’ve been reading a lot of the same material as you about authors paying for reviews and rival authors writing bad reviews. The term “sock puppets” is new to me, though. I love it. There is another form of sock puppet that you didn’t mention (because your post is about reviews, I suppose) and that’s the author who has multiple twitter and/or facebook accounts to stoke the fires of promotion for his own books. Maybe we could call these “finger puppets”? LOL.
Like you, I do reviews of books (indie and traditional) but only (for indies) if I feel I can give the book 3 stars or more. I do most of my reviews on Goodreads and copy them to amazon for indie books where doing so will help the author. I must admit I’m a bit obsessive about typos and I bookmark these as I find them and then offer to send them to the authors. It’s surprising how often these offers are turned down out of hand or not responded to
Thanks JJ and Kelly – what’s great though is that there is a community of really helpful and supportive people out there, all willing each and every one of us to succeed. Let’s remember those, and not the other sort!
ROFL. I can only wonder where they get the energy to spend so much time being someone other than themselves. That takes way too much effort.
An embarrassing question Tarah – what does ROFL mean please? I’m not awfully good at this text and Twitter speak, but I agree with you – what a lot of effort!
ROFL = Rolling on the floor laughing. It’s like LMAO (Laughing my ass off) only not so rude
What makes this even sadder is that the press, whih in most cases sides with trad publishers and against indies, is implying that only indie authors use these paid review ‘services’. The truth is that trad published authors also do this as they are no longer getting the promo support they used to. It really makes the whole review process muddy and undermines the whole industry. We all become victims. It will eventually backfire on those doing this but in the meantime, well ….
Thanks Yvonne. I think it is clear to everybody now that this is not just about indies. Some of the names being mentioned are big hitters with trad publishing deals. So the world now knows that most indie authors wouldn’t do anything like this – we are generally a very supportive group.
Wow, great post, Rachel. Sad too, to think authors could be so vindictive of each other’s hard work. I believe what goes around, comes around.
What an excellent, if disconcerting, blog post, Rachel. Thank you for compiling and sharing all the information. I review professionally for the Mobile (AL) Press Register. I won’t review a book I don’t really like. Having written a novel, I know how difficult it is, so I will also pass on posting reviews on Amazon. However, if I agree to write an online review, it’s likely going to be a five-star. I suppose now I am going to be suspect because of that. I don’t do hatchet jobs on other authors.
Something that really annoys me is readers who can ‘rate’ a book on Good Reads while not posting a single word about it. Who knows if they’ve even read the book they are giving a ONE star? A low rating on a book that has been reviewed is one thing. Reading is subjective. I get that, but how is it fair that someone who offers no proof they know anything about a book other than its title, is allowed to ‘score’ it–either low or high… I’ve seriously considered taking my novel off GoodReads because of that.However, those “drive-by” one stars with no backup of opinion are more prevalent than a “drive-by” four or five star rating.
Thank you for allowing me my rant of the day. As for paid reviews, as a professional reviewer and author, the thought is so abhorrent it makes me gag, as I’m sure it does every writer who has labored over every word they’ve ever written.
Thanks again for this informative post, Rachel.
Rant away, Bonnie! I agree with your comments about ratings without feedback, but I think that the same is true of Apple on the iTunes store, unless I am much mistaken. I think your strategy of only writing reviews of books that you like is a good one, and I feel just the same.
Well done, Rachel!! Thanks for the heads up.
It is pretty depressing. There’s me thinking the cream rises to the surface but so does scum and unfortunately, it appears that it ends up on top of the cream. But how hollow must it be?
Your point one, yes, Stephen Leather, who I actually rather like because he’s up front and speaks his mind, admitted that he uses sock puppets on UK national radio. As a pond-slime level independent author, most people on amazon.com and a fair few on .co.uk assume that I do the same thing.
I feel angry and annoyed and bitter because I’ve written a decent book and I have no sock puppets and haven’t bought any reviews either. And my sales are piss poor.
Great post. With you all the way.
Cheers
MTM
You are right about Stephen Leather being up front, but I don’t know how people have the time and patience to do it, to be honest. The vast majority of good writers wouldn’t stoop to this type of behaviour, and I’m sure if you give your book time it will find it’s way. You should have told us all what it was called, then we could all have had a look at it!
Well… since you ask I may as well be cheeky!
It’s called Few Are Chosen and it’s Part 1 of the K’Barthan Trilogy. The Wrong Stuff, K’Barthan Trilogy: Part 2 came out in April this year and One Man: No Plan, K’Barthan Trilogy: Part 3 is scheduled for release in April 13… They are written in British English and contain car chases, futuristic technology, a dash of romance and a lot of sarcasm. They are available in paperback or e-book via the usual suspects, smashwords, B&N, IBooks, Amazon etc. Thanks.
Rachel, there must be something in the air, because today I’ve been complaining non-stop about sock puppets and authors who buy reviews. Anyway, I’m one of those authors who asked friends and relatives NOT to write reviews for my works. I want my books to speak for me. Not everybody will like them, and it’s fine. As long as the person critiquing my story has read it, he or she can say what they think about it. Hopefully, the people who are outraged by the actions of those shameless authors are in a large number. Lastly, I strongly believe in Karma
Very brave of you to stop friends and relatives from writing reviews. I certainly wasn’t that brave on the first book (but I didn’t ask them to, either). I think the vast majority of the authors I know are equally outraged.
It all makes sense now – why some books that bring on the gag reflex in me do so well, when others that are truly well-written go nowhere.
I know what you mean! Everybody wants to push their book, and we all want to see great reviews, but there’s a limit. I haven’t checked this morning, but I wouldn’t be surprised if I get a couple of negative ones as a result of this, but there you go.
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Great post, Rachel! From what I’ve observed, getting published can be tough enough without authors turning on one another. Writers should support and encourage their peers so I find it a great shame that the authors you refused to review couldn’t see you were trying to help them. No doubt they’d have acted the same had you gone ahead with a negative rating, and you won’t be the last to cross their path.
I find it baffling that authors go out of their way to buy bad reviews or to create sock puppet accounts to leave negative ratings for others. Have they so little faith in their own novel that they have to bring others down? On the other hand, as MTM mentioned, some authors are accused of buying good reviews for themselves or using sock puppets to boost their rating when they haven’t done anything of the sort. It’s a sad situation all round.
Thanks for the feedback, and you are quite right – some people are also wrongly accused. I’m not sure what the answer is, but at least it’s brought this out into the light and the more people that are aware, the more other people will think twice about doing it again.
Rachel, thank you for once again putting into words what so many of us think. As authors and reviewers we all need to look carefully at how we behave, otherwise it will become increasingly difficult to trust any review. So often the emphasis is put on the number of reviews and how many stars they carry, instead of the quality of the thought and appreciation behind the comments. As a teacher I could possibly draw a parallel with qualifications that young people are given these days, but I am sure that would be unfair…Anyway, thanks again for having the courage to talk about difficult issues!
Thanks for the feedback Jenny – you’re right about the quality of the comments. I have been guilty of dismissing books because of poor reviews, and I should know better! I am now very careful about which reviews I take seriously, and which I totally ignore. Perhaps we should all use the ‘Was this review helpful to you’ buttons a bit more, and say ‘no’ to any that are genuinely NOT helpful.
It is worth looking up other reviews from the reviewer too, to get a more complete picture. I was depressed to read today in a new amazon.com review that my short stories were “dull”, “uninspiring” and that the reviewer didn’t think they would bother reading another book by the author. But wait, I thought, I’ll just check their other reviews…sure enough, on the same day the reviewer had found another book (not by me!) not only “dull” and “uninspiring” but had also decided he/she would not bother with another book by the same author. I took your advice, Rachel, and used the “Was this review helpful to you” button!
The subject of reviews is as vast as it is complex and I’m always drawn to articles on the subject, so thanks for this excellent post.
I can certainly sympathise with your experiences and shudder to think of the lengths some people will go to try to damage an author’s sales. I once received a review on my first indie release which appeared within hours of publishing and I still cringe when I see it on Amazon. I feel it was written to deliberately look like a fake review – being a 5*, ill-worded, 2-lined eulogy. It wasn’t a verified purchase and looked blatantly fake. It seemed to me to be potentially inflammatory and could have been quite damaging if those self-appointed ‘review police’ had picked up on it (though fortunately I’m too small-fry for them).
It is a shame that the review process is wide open to abuse from so many directions. From an author’s point of view, checking your reviews on some of the sites you mention is a real roller-coaster ride – and you need a very strong constitution before you climb onto it.
I do agree about needing a strong constitution. I get my husband to read them now, and he tells me whether I should take a look or not. Sometimes a one star review can be an eye-opener, but when it is just something abusive, he tells me not to look because it will wind me up!
Thanks for this salutary post Rachel. Like you I hate giving bad reviews and won’t do it as i know from both my trad published books and my indie stuff that they can impact on sales (one negative Goodreads review comes up on the first page of a Google search for my name – not ideal!!). I obviously don’t have the killer instinct needed to succeed in this business as I would rather go out of my way to help other authors than compete with them – and in fact I’ve found most authors are of the same mindset. It saddens me that some authors are choosing to trash fellow writers’ work as a way of boosting their own. Unfortunately, though we may inform each other of these tricks and ploys, it’s the book buying public, who may not have such ready access to blog posts like yours, who may possibly be more likely to be taken taken in by negative reviews.
I know Flick – but yesterday there was a considerable amount of press coverage – I think the Telegraph, the Guardian and the Daily Mail all wrote articles? So perhaps people will become slightly more discerning. However, there are other ways to fix this problem, and I am convinced that insisting on using real names (i.e. the one on the credit card used to buy the product) would make an enormous difference. If somebody really does hate my book, that’s fine. They shouldn’t in any way be afraid to say so, though, and admit to who they are.
I absolutely agree with this. There are two big problems on Amazon, at least, which could be easily fixed.
First fake reviews and bitchiness on the forums. I’ve heard that all you need is an e-mail address to set up an amazon account. I don’t know if that’s true because I’ve never gone in for sock puppetry but basically, if your forum and reviewer identity were linked to your account and – if you are an author – your author account and you were only allowed to post under you real name I think a lot of people would think harder before posting vitriol.
Second, author spam. If, like other forums, the Amazon ones had a signature line or could seamlessly link a person’s author account with their review/purchasing account there would be no need to mention books because it would be very easy for everyone to find them. There are ways round it now but they’re complicated and I, for one, haven’t mastered them.
In short, I think Amazon’s lack of foresight designing the forum and their failure to deliver anything more than the most basic automatic policing has contributed to and exacerbated many of their problems. And they need to do something because if their review system for books starts to fail people will go elsewhere. Apple, for example.
Cheers
MTM
I have never given an amazon review of below 3 stars as if I dislike a book that much I simply won’t finish it. I don’t understand people who give 1 star reviews in my opinion most 1 star reviews are from authors simply trying to hurt the competition
I agree – if a book is that bad, why finish it? I did hear recently of the daftest thing, though. One reviewer said that they thought the book worth 3 stars, but they had given it a one star to ‘even out all the fives’ – how very bizarre! Thanks for the input, David.
Great post, Rachel. I had read about RJ Ellory via Twitter, but didn’t realise he wasn’t a one-off. Such a shame that anyone has to stoop that low simply to boost his own feeling of self-worth. It’s a form of online bullying (and sneaky bullying at that) with its roots in fear and jealousy.
I’m lucky that I’m surrounded by a lovely group of authors who are mutually supportive, and understand that there is always enough room for us *all* in the publishing world. I hope that eventually all ‘good’ books will find their way to their appreciative and enthusiastic readers.
I never review a book if I haven’t finished it as I don’t believe I have the right! And if I can’t bring myself to finish the book, why on earth would I bother spending even more time with it by writing a review for it?! There are more books to fall into, more stories to write! Life’s too short!
I will only read reviews by professional literary critics. Book reviewers from legitimate publications like the NY Times are the only trustworthy sources in my mind. Even so, understanding that literary criticism is a specific way of looking at the material, I still buy books I think are interesting despite the review. Reviews on Karen Armstrong’s history of the Axial age “The Great Transformation,” for example, are all over the place. Comparative religions geeks, like me, and academic reviewers love it. Other critiques found it too dry and the information confusing. None geeks may not appreciate it but that is why I take it from where it comes. Know thy reviewer, I say, before you buy.
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Great post, Rachel. Very balanced and well-researched. I have to confess this current climate makes me think twice about leaving a review at all, because I’m an author, and I’m worried it’ll be perceived as a fake review with some underhand agenda. It’s made worse that I have only felt moved to leave reviews for books I’ve really enjoyed, so I’ve given them high ratings. Now I’ve stopped officially reviewing any books at all on Amazon. And I live in fear that the review police will look at the very few reviews allocated to my own books, and judge them “fake” because they’re generally complimentary, and come down on me about it. I’m relieved to be small peanuts, and far beneath their notice. So imagine my reaction when someone left me a lowish review on one of my self-pubbed books. Utter relief! Because, gee, it kinda made the only other review (a 5-star one) more legit! But even so, according to Galleycat’s recent “How To Read Amazon Reviews” post, I still “must” have gotten friends and relatives to review my books and none of them will be genuine. Yikes. How sad is it when an author feels relieved to get low reviews because they supposedly legitimize the rest?
I’m an avid reader — get through 15-20 books a month on average — and nowadays the only forum I feel comfortable talking about books anymore is on my own blog. And then, only because I don’t rate the book, and I just talk in general terms about why I enjoyed it, so it can’t be taken as a review, per se. A pity when the perceptions behind authors reviewing books has become so negative that we’re scrutinized and presumed to have an agenda. What happened to just loving the damn book so much we wanted to tell everyone about it? I wish we could go back to those days but the sad thing is, reviews matter. And the very few who try to work the system give the rest of us a bad name.
Thanks Maree – and reviews DO matter. I try to focus on those from recognisable sources, rather than just reading the best and the worst. I think something is going to have to be done, and hopefully with all the noise that’s being made it will put people off cheating – for fear that they will be found out. Maybe Amazon should threaten to remove their books if anybody cheats! That might have an impact!
If I like the sample, I’ll ignore the reviews and take a chance on the book. As for writing reviews, I’m simply not comfortable with it. I’ve heard of authors taking a lot of abuse, and even being harrassed for writing honest reviews, and I don’t think it’s worth the risk.
Unfortunately, I have had to draw the same conclusion. I used to love writing reviews to help other authors. Now I just can’t do it for the very reason you gave. What a shame!
Hi Rachel!
Reading all about this scandal made my blood run cold. Purely for selfish reasons, of course! What scares me is the potential for this to become a bit of a witch hunt – some people going around vigilante style trying to ‘out’ authors for buying reviews. I’ve been pretty lucky with my reviews so far, most of which I put down to having a polite request in the back matter of the book to review it if the reader enjoyed it, and a link to Amazon to make it as easy as possible for them. It’s worked wonders, and my book is now the highest rated travel book in both the UK and the US! But that’s what is scaring me. Does it look like I’ve not been playing fair? Luckily I’m still very small fry, so not likely to attract too much attention, but I dread to think of some righteous person deciding my reviews are too good to be true, and that I need taking down a peg or two. What happens if a slew of one-star reviews suddenly show up to wreck your otherwise good name?This scandal has had a ripple effect reaching far and wide, and I don’t think we’ve seen the end of its effects yet… There’s even a worrying potential to be blackmailed with the threat of poor reviews?!? Okay, I’m going to stop now before I scare myself any more!
Gulp!
Tony
Hi Tony
I don’t think you need to worry quite so much now about people writing fake bad reviews as perhaps you did a week ago. Some authors have reported fake bad reviews disappearing from their site (I actually haven’t checked – mainly because I don’t keep score), but I do think that the higher the awareness that we are all on the look out for frauds, the less likely people are to engage in this rather pathetic practice. And if you’ve got loads of good awards, good for you! it sounds as if you had a good plan to get them, and people have responded.
Yeah, it’s definitely worth adding a link in the back of the book! I figure people are inherently lazy (I am!) and so if you make it as easy as possible to review, you increase the number of people who bother. Lots of people are prepared to make one click from their device, but as soon as they have to go to their computer and browse to Amazon, they’re always quite likely to think ‘I’ll do that later’ – and of course, they never do. It’s the only slightly cheeky tactic I employ, but it seems to bear fruit!
Another excellent post, Rachel. I wrote about this from a slightly different angle last week – http://wp.me/p2phbU-2f – but the topic of pseudonyms and usernames is one very close to my heart – and also my desire to keep the different aspects of my professional life separate. Suffice to say I was pleased to read your paragraph about Amazon…!
Hi Rachel, I came across your blog whilst looking for info on promoting a first book. I’m really happy to have landed here ! The debate re ‘sock puppets’ is something I’ve also read a lot about this past weeks (mainly in relation to John Locke’s work) and all the comments here have been really interesting. A lot has been said of the ‘vitriol’ that some of you, as already published authors, have experienced from other authors … but has anyone noticed how disgustingly rude some of the reviewers are to each other ? It seems there is some kind of ‘pecking order’ amongst the top reviewers and some of them appear to spend as much time, if not more, slating each other’s abilities as they do critiquing books !
As far as Amazon book reviews are concerned, and as somebody else has already mentioned, checking out the reviewer’s profile gives you a better idea of how useful (and/or authentic) a review might be, but the ‘Look Inside’ feature is the very best way of finding out whether or not you might actually want to read the book yourself. Hopefully, most serious readers take advantage of this tool.
Talking of which, and I hope it’s okay to do it here (delete me if not!) but I’d love to give a shout out for another poster … the introduction to whose book I have just had the rib-breaking experience of reading … @Tony James Slater, You were born to be a travel writer .. if not a traveller !! That’s the funniest ‘travel’ stuff I’ve ever read … I felt every bump in the road ! And, when you check your sales stats tomorrow, one of those ‘digits’ will definitely be ME !
(Really strange that I stumbled upon you here, since I’d actually spotted the (witty) title of your book whilst on a whistle-stop tour of the travel section on Kindle, a couple of days ago.
I was one of those people who tell themselves they’re going to go back for another look … I will this time, honest !)
Rachel, thanks again for such great articles. I’ll be sure to check in for more ! All the best to everyone working on their various books and blogs. … I’ll be off to visit all of those mentioned, first thing in the morning !
Oh-oh! I’ve hijacked yet another person’s blog by accident! Thanks so much for your comments Suzanne, I hope you enjoy the book! Don’t try to drink anything that stains whilst reading it…
And so sorry Rachel! I’m getting to be like a… what’s one of those annoying things that turns up everywhere unexpectedly? Oh yes. An asshole!
Still loving your advice by the way – I must have sent 20+ people to your Twitter for beginners series of posts, as they cover everything so well!
All my very best wishes ladies!
Tony
Delighted that people are getting to know other authors through my blog too. I love the indie author community ( well – except those that go round writing awful reviews of other people’s books ), I was delighted to read a review of Only the Innocent the other day when the lovely reader said she was so in love with Tom Douglas that she went out to buy a Natalie Merchant CD because that was what Tom was listening to!
That’s awesome! I know one author who created a playlist on ‘Spotify’ to accompany her book – sort of music to get you in the mood I guess, since it’s a horror novel. It gave her something else to blog/tweet about, and generated a bit of interest. I didn’t bother myself, as my musical taste is… eclectic, to say the least!
Being on the point of self publishing ( but non- fiction, and fairly ‘off the wall’ in terms of no competition likely) this was an interesting, if depressing, read. I had experienced some of what it implies on Authonomy, where the race to the editor’s desk, seemed to encourage all kinds of dubious competitive strategies and sock puppets were flagrant. I had assumed that it was the consequence of the Authonomy ‘set-up’, designed to make their perusal of the slush pile easier, but in fact burying a lot of interesting books (by principled writers) instead. To discover how widespread this is on Amazon is really upsetting, because the only compensation to the loneliness of indie publishing has been the real generosity and warmth encountered everywhere. It seems that the waters are even colder once one has taken the plunge, than I had thought.
I have posted reviews in all innocence, only of works I could genuinely support ( with the exception of slating a famous book that I believed was both over-hyped, and full of fundamental errors and contradictions- but I thought needed an alternative, and the author could certainly ride it!) and, I have aired them on my website too. I have only once received a voluntary quid pro quo from an author who bought and reviewed my book on Goodreads, so I am realistic about the depth of generosity, but active self interested hostility I had never imagined. A really informative blog, so thank you Rachel.
http://philipparees.wordpress.com/
Please don’t be depressed! I never intended that to happen. There is so much good stuff around in the way of help and support from other authors – it’s just frustrating that there really are some bad guys out there. But do your own thing, be proud of your achievements, and just feel sorry for the miserable beggars who have nothing better to do than to slag off other people. It’s been a great twelve months since I launched Only the Innocent, and if the dodgy reviews are the only bad thing that’s happened, I think that’s pretty good going.
Glad I’m not the only one coming late to the party. I just stumbled on an interview you did with Joanna Penn on YouTube last night, so I hadn’t heard of you when you wrote this post.
I agree with whoever said that the only reviews Amazon should allow are those with verified Amazon accounts…accounts with credit or debit cards. And only one account per name and address, since it’s easy to have more than one bank account or credit card.
I am fairly sure I have two fake reviews for a couple of my books. The first is from when I first got started on the indie journey and was stupid enough to believe that trading reviews was a good thing.
I actually read the book by the other author, and gave it an honest review in my own name. But I could tell from the first sentence of her review that she hadn’t read MY book. She also didn’t use the name she writes under either. To this day, a year later, my book is the only one she’s reviewed…and her series is the only one on something called Listmania in that account.
Another reviewer, from a blog tour no less, didn’t read one of my books either. She danced around the subject I’d written about, then asked questions that, had she actually read the story, she’d have absolutely known the answers to. This one offends me the most because she is building a reputation as a book reviewer…who clearly doesn’t always read the books she reviews.
Personally I’d like those two removed, but I’m not sure whether sending a request would be a good idea or not. I have some reviews that are the only reviews people have written…and I have no clue who they are. They are mostly verified purchases, though at least one picked up one of my books in a library. I’d hate to have those ones taken off as well.
So…all of this to say that I really enjoyed the article. It’s nice to see someone showing that this seems to be a problem with traditionally published, fairly famous authors. I also want to apologize. Too little sleep (less than four hours this time), and I have a tendency to ramble.
And I hope there isn’t a problem with repeating some thing here. Sentences seem to disappear, then reappear, so I’m not sure what might be below this part.
Thanks Kristy. It’s quite difficult to get reviews removed unless they break the guidelines. I wrote to Amazon last night about a review on my Amazon UK page. It’s a nice review – four star – but it’s very brief and gives away the outcome of the whole book! The review tells readers something that they don’t find out until the very last page – so I’m really cross. But Amazon won’t take it down because it doesn’t infringe their policies.
Good luck with the books!